And make it practical, make it so these guys in Kolkata and Manila, in Jakarta can find the materials to do it, but will you do that?” And I said, “Of course.” So we went out, we gave it our top priority. We have a very sharp guy named Tony Kim, was our specialist in the crate design. And we had to use the most available, which was heavy, essentially heavy chicken wire covering a wooden frame, but secured in such a way that the doors were double doors, double latches. And the key new thing we added was the requirement that the crate had a double bottom with the false, the first bottom being the same wire mesh so the feces would go through the floor into a waterproof metal tray underneath, and in which we would put this new product, which was now called kitty litter in the time, years before it was sold as, called Zabal, absorbent clay particles from Georgia, that was essentially, up to that time, used in garage and machine shop floors to absorb oil. So we designed, Tony designed the crates with the metal tray underneath the salt false wire bottom. We also indicated for this size monkey, no more than X numbers in that size crate. We got it to Karn. Karn had pictures taken of it, he had posters explaining it made and sent to all his cargo offices throughout the South Pacific, throughout Asia.