He made him somewhat of a formidable character for us to approach. But we did the normal thing that a proper human relation person would do. We approached Uncle Herbert through an intermediary that would build some credibility on our part. Now visualize for a minute, here we are. We’re all Hawaiis, we’re all Caucasians, he’s part Hawaiian. His grandparents came here in their early 1800s as missionaries. He’s third generation. He owns a huge part of the big island, the whole district, the Puna district near Hilo.
