The legs are longer, the webbing is less. But when I began at the zoo, my friend was the head of the territorial department of fish and game, who was a fisheries biologist and an amateur herpatologist. So we became close friends by sharing the few reptiles as captives that Hawaii has. His name is Vernon Brock. Vernon realized very soon that part of his, as part of his responsibilities, which is the native land mammals, the Hawaiian geese were in very serious decline. So he employed a person to do a survey, a scientist named Charlie Schwartz. And Charlie and his wife, Elizabeth, did a so-called game bird survey, even though nene were not gamed birds at this time, they were in the past. And game bird survey of the Hawaiian islands, which was mostly the introduced birds, the chuckers and the pheasants and the quail.
