So he said, yeah. So he reached way down under the counter and brought these slides up of Hawaiian ladies provocatively dressed in only a graph skirt, leaning against a coconut tree, swimming, emerging from the ocean and coming out of the beach. And Bernard said, “Those are great.” I said, “How about these?” He said, “I’ll take them all.” So he bought a little series there, it’s all the guy had. And I said, “How do you,” he said, “You plan to show those on your TV show in Germany?” And he smiled and he said, “Oh yes.” He said, “If the skin is brown, bare breasts are okay.” I’ve always enjoyed that (laughing). But he was one character of many, many. Now you mentioned that you went to the mainland to go to a AZA Conference, a ZPA conference at that time.