His potential female mating companion there finally died of a cancer. So he went to live in the zoo in Seattle on breeding loan. And at the age of, well, the 30-something, he mated with two of the Seattle Zoo’s gorillas, and had a success. Each of them had a child by him, and one of the children died in infancy, and the other one is Nadiri, is still up in the Seattle Zoo at the present time. Let me ask you some director questions. You met many people as a zoo director.