But that was a wonderful time in terms of how our zoo benefited from the ability to enable Sir Edward to set up a reliable shipping relationship for his animals. Because in those days, even airplanes took a long, long time, many hours from Sydney and New Guinea to the mainland. And not only did he supply stock to us, I remember in the mid ’50s, one of the largest shipments that he sent to the mainland zoos was accompanied by George Scott. At that time, George was a bird curator here in the Bronx. And George came through, went down to New Guinea, the same wildlife sanctuary that, owned by and operated by Sir Edward in the central highlands of new Guinea. He came through with something like 70-plus birds of paradise for five different zoos. And it was wonderful to meet George and our trucks. Bring all of his birds off, it was a PanAm flight coming in from Manila.