It’s always easier if private entities are providing funds that essentially seed money. And this is what Sir Edward, as our benefactor, enabled us to do. He gave a large number of birds, particularly birds of paradise. Many, many birds, kangaroos, cockatoos, rare, expensive cockatoos. Major Mitchell’s cockatoos of, many pairs of them, black palm cockatoos. But the key thing, he became a close friend and one of my powerful mentors. And Sir Edward made many trips back and forth from Australia to the mainland. And the way he was an industrialist, and he’s mentioned in two popular books that zoo people could read.
