It was a new game every time, needless to say, over the last, I guess five or six years that I worked at the zoo, well, let me back up a little, we talked about some great detail. When with David Anderson and David Robinett, I started working very closely with David Robinett. And David knew that I was unhappy with what was, I felt my cards were being dealt. We’d have these conversations, common conversations. Our offices were right next to each other. We’d have conversations sitting at our desk, not seeing each other, and David, became a really good guy. And I think that was one of his downfalls. And in terms of good guy, I’m not saying, I’m not saying all of a sudden, he was anti David Anderson.