Well, I had little involvement. I was little aware of what’s going on. Skippy was a great kangaroo, I believe. I can’t remember, anyway, had a heart problem. And we had been working with UCSF in Stanford. The vet department through, once again, personal contacts, I met someone at a cocktail party at Stanford who was in the anesthesia department and he had done some previous work with Marine, with the Ana Nuevo, with the elephant seals and I guess Marine Mammal Center. And when he found out I worked the zoo and that evening we talked and he wanted to become, you know, he said, hey, if you need help, give us a call. And we had other, our vet, who had that by that point in time, was working with the doctors.
