I can’t say I remember how many ideas that we came up with, but they had all kinds of consultants and designers to design that aspect. And there’d be references from the exhibit, saying, go to computer J in the education component and you’ll learn more about the Celebes ape or some aspect of the Celebes ape. But in terms of trying to design the primary center, totally involved, there was some disappointment, in you scratch your head. How could you have done this in terms of once, not once it was open, but once it was being built, you’re sitting for months and months and months and countless hours of talking to architects and engineers and designers. And then they start coming up with conceptual drawings and drawings. And you see these drawings you see these two dimensional drawings of exhibits and you’re like, oh, that’s 30 feet and that’s 20 feet and that’s eight feet. And at least in my mind and many overall, they seem very adequate at the time. But once the footings are, it’s only this wide.
