I mean, there was a great debate about change. There used to be giving them all out meat and bones in addition to the stuff. And that was changed while we were there. I mean in the end, they were fine, we shipped them back to China. Saul and I went down to LA, flew down to LA to pick him up and accompany the animals to San Francisco. But that eighties period was nothing like anything I ever experienced with, like I said, the openings of those exhibits that I mentioned.
