Well, that my concept on that, let’s go back to that just for a minute, if you got any more time. We got time. My concept was that, there is no place in the country where you can learn to be a zoo man except in a zoo, and I felt obligated to teach, and to have the people who are working here in in the curatorial or zoology level, to learn not only one department like reptile or birds or mammals, but I had in, I insisted that they all make the rounds in the zoo every day, and then I used to have a meeting of about five or 10 minutes in my office, following their rounds, we had a more or less set time for this, and they used to come in and say, well, there’s this and report into me, but I made the rounds too, and I knew what was going on all over the zoo, but I wanted them to have the feeling of knowing more than one small section of the zoo, because when you, there’s so many reasons why it’s important for them to know more than one little grouping of animals, and it was this concept that made the difference between men who could go out then and be full time zoo directors. Must have made a difference. It did make a difference. A well respected people who started at the zoo of Lincoln Park Zoo. Yeah, Ed Maruska for example came in here as an animal keeper, when he hadn’t even finished high school, we helped him to finish high school, he was already married and had three kids, and he finished high school, and then we were able to get him down at Roosevelt College, where he got zoology, and we were able to do this because I could arrange, by that time we had two days a week off instead of one, and I could arrange his days, so he could coordinate with the courses in school, he went to night school to finish high school, and then he went to Roosevelt, and didn’t some night work there, but he also took courses on the two days that we could arrange his time. I say one of the things that I was told a while back, that one of the responsibilities of the zoologist when he was at Lincoln Park Zoo, and I guess in coordination with the nursery, that every morning he had to go to the lion house, and if there were baby cats, they had to exercise them on the floor, I wish today that was part of the responsibility of the zoologist, that’s part of the fun, you know, the higher you go, the more administration you get and the less content.