Yeah, there were some other children’s zoos, well, we had a keeper here named Lyman Carpenter, and Lyman was an artist and he was a doer, he could make any darn thing, so, we had a concept, I had a concept of a children zoo and we had no funds, the budget didn’t give us anything, so, I said to Lyman, I said, Lyman, the park district had some kind of children’s thing out in parks on the west side, and they were having some kind of a children’s fair or something out there, and I said to Lyman, why don’t we get our heads together and make a portable children’s zoo thing out of plywood, and simple little cages, and take it out there for the Chicago park district at this, whatever their function they were having out there, and it was an outdoor thing, so Lyman got busy and came up, we talked the thing over pretty carefully, and other people were involved in planning for this, and so Lyman built some about those panels I think about four by six feet or so, and he painted those things in animal motifs and designs, and arranged them cleverly so that they would work, you could set them up and make a triangle, or this box out of or anything, and then with all these different cages, they were flashy, brightly colored things to attract the tension of children or anybody, and then the animals were things that you could actually take out and handle, non poisonous snakes and turtles, and tame guinea pigs, and all the usual things that you would handle, so, that was a kind of a success, then we had all this stuff afterwards, so we set it up down near the south pond, and had a kind of a little temporary children’s zoo down there, one summer, and this was very well received, we got a lot of publicity at the press, the park district did pictures of it and was put into the publications that they developed, and from that point forward, we pushed for funds for a children’s zoo a good one, and I had some concepts on that, it was also Lyman who got tired of being a day keeper, and wanted to be a night keeper, and so I shifted him to be a being a night keeper, and then he would sometimes get things in in the evening, people would bring things like baby squirrels, or baby raccoons or possums or something like this that they’d found, and bring them to the zoo, and Lyman would take them and find a place for them and look after them, and then when baby animals were born, Lyman was very good with animals and he would take care of them at night time here, and this was so successful, I approved of that wholeheartedly because up to that time, we had sent baby tigers or lions or whatever out to private homes, some of the people working in the zoo would take them home with them, and I prefer to have them here, because of health reasons for the animals, and so that they don’t get too highly imprinted on people, and they be, have a variety of people taking care of them instead of just one or two, and so we developed the first children’s, let’s see, what do I call that thing?