Well, yeah, there was a man here named Ivin Young, and Ivin Young had been a printing missionary for the American Presbyterian Mission in the Cameroons, and he had been there at the time that Bushman was at the mission station there, he knew him there, and admired him, and then, he left the missionary business and came to Chicago and had some factories, he designed some equipment that made tags, the kind you have or maybe strings on them and you tie them onto things, he had the young tag factory here in St. Louis, and he also made the equipment to make tags, all different kinds of tags, not just a kind with strings on them.