Yeah, for a lot of young professionals. yeah, yeah. In the beginning, we talk about the grade eight collection at Lincoln Park being world famous, and of course it got started one point, it didn’t become world famous overnight, nothing does. No, no. You were instrumental in starting some of the, and acquiring some of the younger roles that today formed the nucleus of our troops at Lincoln Park Zoo. Could you tell me a couple of things, one, some stories and recollections about those animals that you were able to actually go over and get, and also you worked with Bushman. Yes. And Sinbad, of course, in the beginning, kind of maybe start with Bushman, if you could, and tell us a little something about, ’cause he was world famous.