And I became involved in terms of teaching, instructing, coaching the docents. So that made a difference in terms of the board involvement. And we also established, in that time, a scientific research advisory committee that handle a little money in terms of awarding grants and things of that sort. But on the overall, the trustees were mainly concerned about the financial prudence that was being exhibited or not exhibited. And that’s where their main concerns were not in terms of the way the institution was being administered and led. But, again, I mean, people arose like Penny Korhummel that made a difference. They arose, but in terms of the previous directors, it just wasn’t significant.
