And whom I made acquaintance with before. K.P. came over to Michigan and gave an absolutely outstanding lecture on the Humboldt Current. And there were no slides, nothing, but he created the Humboldt Current and all of the birds, the fishes, et cetera, so that felt the surf, you felt the fog, et cetera. It was a marvelous, marvelous lecture to Sigma side. And the other gentleman who came over and gave a lecture was Alfred Emerson. Well known for his studies on termites and whatnot, and was professor at University of Chicago and both Emerson and Schmidt were part of the great apes that authored the first text on animal ecology in America. Allee, Emerson, Park, Park, and Schmidt. And it happened that Emerson and Schmidt were part of a three, or four-person team of the Chicago Zoological Society trustees that was looking to employ a person to fulfill an unfilled part of the agenda, the mission of the Chicago Zoological Society.