And while certain institutions like Monterey Bay Aquarium and their exhibit graphics, and in some of their interactive devices, certainly engage the public in tremendous questions as you’re well aware in terms of fisheries, the enormous conservation challenge for the world. While they’re utilizing some of this kind of incentivizing of the public, it’s not nearly enough. You have to get people engaged in a much more substantial way. And I think the zoos in general have not stepped up to the plate and certainly the Zoo Association at this time is just not there. And the way it was a few years back when we established the programs in terms of, so to speak, common old management of animal species, populations, was the species survival plans, and so on. Which we and others at National Zoo and elsewhere were involved in formulating the strategies and the plans and the devices, the ISIS program, and all of that. We need a similar program, a similar sort of initiative in terms of this job of convincing and persuading and enabling our urban publics to support the efforts for the conservation of the biota of even the charismatic animals that many people especially care for, care about, not care for. So I see that as a major undertaking that needs to be undertaken right now.
