No, I think there’s been a sort of in terms of whether zoos today get it. I think they get it in terms of the responsibility, but in terms of measuring up to that responsibility, no, I don’t. I think they’ve actually backtracked, despite some real leaders stepping forward in terms of individual institutions, but say in terms of the collective of American zoos, the association, I don’t think it’s there. But we can delve further into that. But as I say, with backing, especially from the European zoos and the likes of Bill Conway, we promoted the consciousness of the conservation responsibility in a very substantial way.
