Well, in terms of the IUCN, the International Union for the Conservation of Nature, I early on became associated when Peter Scott was the chair of that commission, and the Species Survival Commission, which is devoted to promoting the conservation of individual species, especially the more charismatic, and so on, and so forth. But Peter Scott was the chair of the, the commission when I became associated. And I helped early on in terms of strategies for building this commission of volunteers. Most of them professional biologists, are people associated with institutions like zoos, and so on. (George chuckles) And I can remember some, (George chuckles) some engaging arguments with Sir Peter Scott on whether blue whales could be kept in the contained part of the ocean that we’d fenced off, and so on, and so forth. So we had some interesting exchanges along that line. But he was a fine, fine man. And with his work, mainly with waterfowl of course, in England.
