Well, in terms of the Chicago Zoological Society and my relationships there, I mean, what we did basically was build a general membership. When I came, there was only a group of prominent citizens constituted the governing membership and who elected amongst themselves trustees who governed the institution. and its director. But in my time, we very consciously built a general membership and it’s still a prominent force, and contributing, in the process, to the resources available through their annual membership. So that became a substantial sum, especially when you built up the membership to 80,000 or so. That was a significant figure. So in terms of the society, I mean, it changed in respect to having that general membership component. But in regard to the people in the governing membership, I’d already established good relationships with many of those folks.