(George chuckles) My management style was to keep my hands off as much as possible, but shout when necessary in terms of when I felt programs and strategies, et cetera, were off the mark. And so I uttered a few curse words in my time, but mainly it was to encourage people to pursue endeavors that were going to be promoting the welfare of the animals in the collection, but also the welfare of the species in the wild. And so I pushed my people on those fronts, but encouraged ’em, for instance, Patty McGill had a man down in Chile doing his doctoral work out of a German university. Well, we supported most of his education, so I encouraged that kind of outreach in my time and tried to look for other avenues to express myself in and that included the international arena where, as I say, I’d become early on associated with the International Union for the Conservation of Nature.
