I saw the animals being regarded as play things, as tools for our own interest, but I didn’t see the real facilitation of bonding with other living beings. And so much later in my time, I saw to the development of the Hamill Family Play Zoo in which I think we set the pattern and we were going to then, the further developments would’ve been a modern family farm adjacent and then a more naturalistic setting in the woods on the east side of the zoo for the kids to have different experiences that help them bond with the natural world. So, yeah, early on, as I say, we had three proposals, architectural sketches and all of that for an enlargement or an extension of the children zoo, but I never felt comfortable with them in terms of the basic purpose of getting people to experience, and especially kids, to experience a different relationship with the natural world.
