In terms of advice and counsel from previous directors such as Peter Crowcroft, my immediate predecessor, I really did not receive any substantial counsel from them. There was no true mentoring, shall we say. In part, because I was developing, especially the research potentials of zoos, generally, as I indicated, I’d been involved with the ISIS movement. But had also, in relation to that, I’d assembled a first session at an American student aquarium conference on research down in Texas. And I can remember, I thought that this was going to be an odd occasion as I got off the plane and came down the stairway in the airport, and there was a guy with green hair. And I felt this, is an omen. (chuckles) I don’t know which way it’s going to work out. So I distinctly remember that, but it was the launch in terms of zoos in research and there was a little conflict with some federal agencies with such interest and who sadly served us in publishing the proceedings. And I had my little encounters there.
