And it was just an interesting challenge. So in 1970, I went from Columbus to Brownsville, Texas to work with Warren Thomas. I worked with him for four years and in April of 1974, he left and subsequently then went on to Los Angeles Zoo. And then I became the director of the Gladys Porter Zoo in 1974. And we’re gonna talk in more detail about some of that time, but just to follow through on one quick question.
