Warren, I did not know when I was at Columbus. He had already moved on and was in Omaha at that time. Warren went on to do a consulting job for the people in Brownsville, Texas for the Earl C. Sams Foundation who were going to build the zoo, which ended up being called the Gladys Porter Zoo. And he did the through the ’67, ’68, ’69. He helped them with the construction of the zoo. And when it came time to staff it, he called me and asked me if I’d be interested in the associate director veterinary position, which I jumped at, because it was a wonderful opportunity to go to a brand new zoo and build a collection from nothing. The Foundation provided very good financial support. So we had the means to put a world class collection together.