We could efficiently administer the project and have done it ever since. So that’s sort of how we got into that form of conservation. One other way, our current reptile person and now general curator, Colette Adams, became very well known for her capability to breed iguanas and worked with iguanas and crocodilians. So she became involved in the zoo and aquarium association program for iguanas and crocodilians, and it wasn’t so much that we were putting so much in monetarily into programs around the world, as it was her providing time and expertise to do it. I got to early on work with the rhino programs and started with black rhinos and then subsequently of become active in all of the rhinos. And here again, even though we didn’t put in a lot of monetary help for those, we helped either raise funds. And I contributed time by serving on the International Board of the Rhino Foundation. So these are the ways that we approached it, and it was more with expertise and with time and some money to get involved.
