I don’t think there were so many issues other than who was gonna be the associate director. And I had two different staff persons that both wanted that position. One was a dynamic hepatologist and one was a more generalized person who had a mammals background who, when he came to our zoo, because we had a void in birds, he switched over to embrace birds. He also was our first IT person when computers started to become involved in the zoo arcs and the med arcs, and all these programs came out. He understood that and he was just more of an all around generalist and good with people. So I selected him and that was the right choice. He went on then to become the director of the zoo in Tampa, Florida. And then after he left there, he was the associate director in charge of the animal collection for white Oak Plantation in Yule, Florida.