When I was like a junior and a senior in high school, I would spend time there and he was the person that ended up sponsoring me to get into a veterinary school at Ohio State. So when you got out of veterinary school, you then had your first job was. I was a private practitioner. I worked for an established person, Dr. Arthur Richards. And as I mentioned in Franklin and Grove City, Pennsylvania, he was a very progressive veterinarian. And at the time he was a member of the American Animal Hospital Association Practice, very high quality medicine. And this was back in 1965. But he was doing spinal surgery on dogs that were paralyzed.