Well, of course there were cages, you know. There were cages and there were things in the cages for them to do, and bars, and there was a window. There was a work aisle, and then there was a window that the public was, you know, the public could see through these big windows. And that’s what it was. I mean, that was what they knew. That’s what they knew at that time. And you were kinda formulating your experiences, you’ve talked about about, that these experiences helped you later on. Well yeah, so the experiences with them of course, I mean, helped me and to know how they behaved, and what you can do with them and what you can’t, the things that are, yeah.