Well I tried to, the best way to do it is to try to co-opt them. You know become, not become necessarily a part of them, but to try to get to where there are some things that you can agree with them on, and I think you can. I’m not saying some aren’t nutty. I mean there are, no question, there’s plenty of them I think that are. But I think there are a lot of ways of, instead of being confrontational and wanting to be, ’cause I know how that feels, wanting to be confrontational with them and wanting to, you know, to spew out a whole bunch of facts that will destroy their argument. But you can gotta remember, this is a very, it’s an emotional thing. They’re not basing what they’re talking about on science or logic, they’re doing it on their emotions. And I think that you have to get with them and make some kind of an agreement with them.