Well, obviously I felt very strongly that we had to be independent of the Parks Association. I mean, we had nothing really, well we had, I can’t say nothing in common, we of course did. But very little in common with them. And I think that those guys who, one of the, you know, one of the big straw that broke the camel’s back was that they put out a publication, you know, every month, I guess. And there was a section for each one of the divisions and the zoos were a division, you know. And on the cover of one when, this was when Vietnam was going on, you know. On the cover was a tiger that US troops had killed as part of recreation. That’s really the straw that broke the camel’s back, that made us vote to get out of that organization.