Or you were just, “Hey this is a happy, got a job.” Right, I’m happy, I’m working in the zoo. And Warren Thomas was a mentor for me, one of two in my life, I think I had, or three maybe. And We had our differences on occasion, but he was, he was except knowledgeable about the variety of animals. And I really appreciated that, ’cause that was what, that was a fascinating thing for me. And I kept up with that my whole career, is the variety, the different kinds, like I say of monkeys, of a certain monkey species and, or an antelope species or whatever. And that was a very, that always fascinated me. That’s the kind of thing that I’m always fascinated, I was very fascinated by, and he was, he was you know, a mentor and he was a guy that, he was a veterinarian who got in with the man who was, who had developed the Cap-Chur gun. And he’s the first guy, as far as I know, to take the Cap-Chur gun to Africa.