Well, she didn’t have a lot of the, well none of the scientific people, you know. A lot of the people at universities, and guy who was at Humboldt State University, who was the head of, you know, National Geographic Society who was funding her in part, as a scientific journal, not the magazine. And the editor of that journal was the guy who was at Humboldt State. And he said, “This is just a farce, it’s just a farce. There’s nothing she ain’t, she’s not doing any science,” but he couldn’t say anything because National Geo was funding it. They wouldn’t come out and say it. And finally, I said, “You’re gonna, if you get money and you pay for it, fine.” Because by this time I thought that she wasn’t gonna be a, she wouldn’t be a breeder anyway. And of course it turns out she never has bred.
