Well I can tell you right now, that was one of the least happy instances of my career. The moral, I’ll tell you the first the moral, don’t ever let an animal, your animal, out of your zoo. ‘Cause if you do, the chances of your getting it back are very slim. This happened to other places too. I can cite you other instances. But yeah, the director of some time, actually a number of directors before me, allowed this animal, their baby was born, and allowed this person, or a person, to do experiments with training this gorilla to do hand signs, hand signs, you know, the American hand signals. And while I don’t think that in itself is a horrible thing, he allowed her to take the animal out of the zoo and do the work somewhere else, at Stanford University. And she became very, very attached to that animal, which I know can happen, there’s no question of that.
