And a lot of things make that up. Memory, you know, makes that up. There’s all kinds of things that do it. And I did my master’s thesis on what really was memory in great apes. And it was, it was called “Matching from Sample”, which is the way we did it, to get at memory. We had a big machine that we made out of wood and I used to push it through the primate house at Oklahoma City. And we put it in front of the orangs and we put it in front of the chimps, and there was a door that came down, wouldn’t let them see what we were doing. And I had a, I would give them a sample.
