And so I said, “Do you want me to follow through on it?” He said yes, and so I did. I contacted John Aspinall and I said, you know, I told him what we had, who we had, an adult male gorilla. He wasn’t totally and absolutely a giant full grown, but he was pretty big. I mean, he wasn’t anybody you wanna walk into unannounced into a cage, ’cause he was a pretty big gorilla, probably sexual mature actually. Well, it turned out he was but, (chuckling) and we got ready to send him to England. And it was quite a project, quite a project. Who went with him? I don’t even remember. Jim Vance.
