It’s not just taking them from the wild and say, here’s something for the public to look at and whatever. This is, that’s the objective of it. I mean, whether it’s conservation or not, I mean, maybe it’s a pipe dream to think that the zoos were gonna be able to save gorillas or any animal really, but it’s, we all had that desire, I think. Everybody had that desire and that wish to see them reproduce, to make a more natural group of animals for one thing. And just, you just wanted to see that. You wanted a young, you were always, whenever a baby was born of any, you know, anything. That made you very, very happy and pleased, because that was, you were fulfilling one of the functions that you had had, that the zoo had. And that’s, you know, and to finally have this happen with gorilla, which was of course one of the icons, it was really an amazing thing.
