I was taking pictures. Oh, (laughing) so was I. I was taking pictures too, but she started- It was kind of a culmination- Oh yeah. Oh yeah, yeah. Oh God. It was a, it’s something that I know that Fisher wanted, Les Fisher wanted very much. And he had been working towards that, by getting, you know, these gorillas and getting them together and you know, and that kind of thing, which is, was of course obviously necessary, but other zoos, some didn’t actually do that, which never made much sense to me then. I remember it all of a sudden she sort of went up on the shelf, you know, the shelf that they had, and she started giving birth, and the baby started to come out. And she grabbed it, she grabbed it and started to take care of it, started to hold it anyway.
