Anyway, and there was a job section, you know, and I looked, and there was Lincoln Park Zoo, and they were looking for a curator. And I said, “Hey, this might be, you know, that’s a good place, that’s a good collection, it sure is, and I’ll look into that.” And so I did, and I wrote a letter saying I’m interested and his luck would have it they said, “Come down.” I got a letter saying, “Come down.” And so I did, I went down, got a motel over on the South Side, and of Chicago, and went to the zoo and talked with Les Fisher and talked with Gene Hartz, of course, who was the assistant director at the time. And they of course wanted to, they knew Warren Thomas and they knew his reputation and that I had left there wasn’t any impediment to my getting a job at Lincoln Park, they understood what the story was. Lots of other people that had problems with him, with Thomas. They asked though of course, Gene did anyway, what the problem, and I just, I told him, and he understood it. And of course it was Les Fisher’s decision to make. And I guess there was only one other, I think there may have been only one other candidate truthfully for that job, and that was that dealer down from New York, I forget his name. I believe there was, that’s it.