Okay, I did well okay, when I left Omaha Zoo, at Omaha Zoo I made, when I was at the zoo in Omaha, I made contact of people who used the zoo, like Omaha Zoo, as a place to ship things from to other places, believe it or not. There was a very famous game farm up in Alberta, Canada that was owned by a man named Al Oeming. And he would bring like muskox down to Omaha, and we would ship them for him, and he would do that kind of thing. And I got to be, we got to be very good friends with him, or we knew him, got to know him, and he became interested in hiring me and Leroy Thomas to go there. And when we quit at Omaha, he actually came down I guess, to do something and we were gone, and he saw that as an opportunity to get us to work for him. And he called us and talked to us about going there. And he promised an awful lot of, well he would never, he would never promise money, not Al Oeming. But he would promise, you know, a chance to do a lot of things.