No, I didn’t really. I mean, he was down there and he was pretty much a hands on guy and was doing a lot of the vet work too, aside from the temporary vet. But I didn’t have, I mean, I was just a summer helper here. I didn’t have a lot of face time with the director of the zoo. It was more the zoologist, Dennis Merritt, who was in charge of that, or the workforce, the senior keeper of the, Roy Smith who was the senior keeper then of the Children’s Zoo. I mean, those were my bosses and the women who worked, Pat Sass and Pat, her name, Dor, at that time, then later married, Pat Sammarco. These were all people that I was directly dealing. These are were my colleagues for the summer.