“What could we see that was different that we hadn’t seen?” And we, one time, we wanted to see behind the bear line, “What was behind the bear line?” And we had to go to the zoologist who was in charge, a guy, this guy, Jim Mizaur at the time. And we said, “We wanna go behind the lines and see the bear line. We couldn’t just walk in.” And he goes, “Why? There’s nothing there. Why do you wanna go back there?” “Because we hadn’t seen it. We wanted to experience it.” And he said, “All right, talk to Tony, the bear guy, and he’ll get you in. I have no idea why.” And so we would go by there, but everybody throughout my career, you always take away information from them. And as Tony showed us the behind the scenes of the bear line, he would always check the locks. And he’d say, “Always check your locks, always check your locks on these things.” And that was ingrained to me that when you were doing certain things, as I progressed, there were certain times I would be looking at things and I’d be looking at it, not talking to the guest or something, I’d be looking, “Are there’s locks in there?” I mean, that was ingrained because of the older keepers who knew their job and would talk to me, but we, every day we would go and see things, so. It’s good to become second nature. (laughs) Well, that was part of it in the learning curve. Yeah. So you mentioned several times, Dr. Lester Fisher was the director at that time.
