And then they had three zoologists. Dennis Merritt was one zoologist. He was kind of in charge of the Children’s Zoo as part of his responsibility. They didn’t call him curators at the time. Eddie Almandarz, who was the zoologist in charge of the reptile division. And a guy named Jim Mizaur, who was kind of the, he was the bird zoologist at the time. And they didn’t have a veterinarian. They had Eric Mishkin who was a part-time vet and they had a part-time pathologist who was there.
