And I think the wildlife in Africa, as opposed to the Amazon or some other places is so much more readily seen and very heavy on mammals and so forth. So it was always a place that I thought was really wondrous. I mean, it was so different from anything here in the United States. And I always just felt so very positive going over there. But knowing that one had to try and build in programs more and more and more that zoo should be doing to help those animals in the wild. I thought that one of the things that Minnesota Zoo did many years ago was to have a, adopt a national park program. And I don’t know why more zoos don’t do it, but it was such a positive thing for helping these national parks, which protect the animals to be able to do that. So Africa’s one of those places I think zoos can make a difference.
