Well, I think what happens is sometimes, you have a degree of expertise in a subject matter that people actually recognize. And Howletts Zoo Park who was one of the premier gorilla facilities in England and in Europe had loaned four male gorillas to the Jakarta Zoo. And they had, Jakarta Zoo had sent a keeper to Howletts for a year to learn about gorilla management and how to do it. And then they had built a gorilla facility, somewhat like Howletts but yet different and had put it together. And Howletts said, they called me, and they said, “We would like you as one of two experts, one guy in Europe and you, ’cause of the work done at Lincoln Park Zoo, we would like you to go to Jakarta and give us your assessment of this place. Where is it positive or is it negative? What’s going on?” And I thought that was a very big endorsement of Lincoln Park Zoo and its work with gorillas, myself and the work with gorillas that, and I was able to go there and give them an, they built a world class facility for the gorillas and give them directly to Howletts, give them an assessment of what was going on. So it’s nice when work you’ve done in your career is rewarded by people feeling you have some worth to give them the benefit of your knowledge. Yeah, it’s acknowledge right there. Boom.
