And he said to me, “Remember, you know more about your subject matter than any of these people do ’cause you’ve studied that.” And he introduced me. He said, “Here’s the dead end kid from Chicago.” Broke the ice. And I gave my first major presentation. But the point is that because of Dennis’ mentoring, that part of publishing, not because you had to, because it was what you should be doing was so very important. And I’ve tried to instill that in people, and some will do it, and some won’t. But it’s one very basic thing I thought was always very important about getting the word out and sharing like we did our information on the gorillas with people who needed that information. And I had one lady, I was at an international conference and I was meeting people and I said this, “Oh, what’s your name?” I said, “My name is mark Rosenthal.” And she said, “Oh my gosh, I’ve read your paper and so and so and so and so.” And I said, “You did? Oh wow, that’s cool.” So the fact that’s some would actually read what you write and feel it had some importance. Sure. Sure. I love the collaborative nature of the zoological community that you’ve described here for the last few minutes.
