I think it goes back to the idea of training people to do a better job, giving them the information to do a better job. And this Smithsonian through the National Zoo had a program of zoo management. They would go out and they would teach a month long zoo management class around the world, different parts of the world. Wow. And I was asked with my mammal expertise, if I would be part of a team going to China. And I went to Shanghai, China for a month. And I taught along with a bird person and a vet and so forth, animal management to people throughout China that came to the Shanghai Zoo. Beyond a wonderful experience aside from meeting people and just seeing a brand new place, and how to deal with people and get them to understand new ideas.