And one of the basics is make rounds in the morning and see what your animals are doing, how are they doing, what’s going on.” So my first job would be making rounds in the morning, talking to people, see what’s going on, every day had a routine, but every day was different, depending on the living collection and what was going on, who was working, what had to happen. So it was setting things up in the morning and then it was paperwork, lot of paperwork, personnel stuff. Again, what brought me into the profession, I didn’t have time to go play with the gorillas. All of a sudden now, you’re doing more administrative things, which I got, but it was not the fun part of the job. There’s no question. Writing permits, meeting donors, doing tours, whatever was, and as we were building things, Lester started it and continued. And as we were building things, we had a lot of building that was going on and programming and getting things squared away. That was a wonderful part of the job, which was wonderful. And of course, the more your experience allowed you to be productive in that area.