And I’d been, I’d had all this exposure to it. So this was kind of the genesis of I always wanted to work with living animals. And I always, I never didn’t wanna work in a museum with dead animals, but I wanted to work with living animals and there, Lincoln Park Zoo, from really an early age was ingrained. And then my parents, when they would go to Milwaukee to visit their friends who I called Uncle George and Aunt Lucille, we would go, George Keller and his wife, they would say, “What do you wanna do?” “I wanna go to the zoo.” And so they would always bring me to the Washington Park Zoo which was before the new Milwaukee Zoo was built. And so I had recollections of the old Milwaukee Zoo, and then I would have recollections of the old Lincoln Park Zoo. So when I would come to Lincoln Park later on in my career and I would talk to the animal keepers and I would say, “Yeah, you know, the rabbit village,” and they’d go, “How do you know about the rabbit village?” Because as a kid, I had seen this where they had all these houses and the rabbits would go in and out of them. And they had different, you know, a church and a storefront and a firehouse and they, little places for the rabbits to live. And they’d, “How would you know that?” I remember Bushman the gorilla who died in 1951.
